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Galaxy S25 Series Wishlist

(Topic created on: 05-05-2024 10:12 AM)
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DaverZ
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Galaxy S
Hello, Samsung.


Here is a generalized wishlist of features for the Galaxy S25 series smartphones and beyond. I will add more features to this list if and when I think of them. Feature requests applyto all variants unless otherwise noted. Thank you for your consideration.

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Last Updated: Monday, July 1st, 2024 @ 2:28pm EST


(1) Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 chip worldwide (see #22 for details)

(2) satellite phone and internet

(3) flat displayswith rounded corners

(4) at least Corning Gorilla Glass Armor on the frontand back

(5) revert the Ultra's titanium frame back to aluminum for better cooling, as titanium traps heat inside the device: the front and rear glass already trap heat inside the device, leaving the aluminum frame as the most efficient route to dissipate heat

(6) manual battery bypass/direct power available whenever charging, regardless of activity, with settings for automation and scheduling; this feature would increase battery longevity, reduce heating when charging or using DeX, and make overnight charging completely harmless

(7) a smaller one-handed model which could be called the "Galaxy S25 Mini"

(8) larger batteries:

Mini model: 3,400mAh
base model: 4,300mAh
Plus model: 5,000mAh
Ultra model: 6,000mAh

(9) Qi2 magnetic wireless charging (MagSafe for Android)

(10) faster wired charging:

Mini model: 30 watts
base model: 45 watts
Plus model: 65 watts
Ultra model: 80 watts

(11) wider range of storage and RAM options (see #24 & #25 for more details):

Mini & base models:
  • 256GB + 12GB
  • 512GB + 12GB
Plus model:
  • 256GB+12GB
  • 512GB+12GB
  • 1TB+16GB - many phones are already available with 16GB of RAM; this would be especially useful for DeX mode; see #29
Ultra model:
  • 512GB+12GB
  • 1TB+16GB
  • 2TB+24GB - several phones are already available with 24GB of RAM

(12) flush rear cameras with no bumps, while keeping the back panel perfectly flat

(13) sapphire crystal lens covers on the rear cameras

(14) upgraded rear camera cluster:

Mini model:
  • 64MP 1/1.33" main/wide-angle sensor
  • 16MP 0.5x ultrawide sensor
  • 16MP 2-5x variable periscope telephoto sensor
base & Plus models:
  • 64MP 1/1.33" main/wide-angle sensor
  • 16MP 0.5x ultrawide sensor
  • 16MP 2-5x variable periscope telephoto sensor
  • 8MP IR-enhanced night vision sensor
  • 320×180 thermal/infrared sensor
Ultra model:
  • 256MP 1.0" main/wide-angle sensor
  • 16MP 0.5x ultrawide sensor
  • 64MP 3-10x variable periscope telephoto sensor
  • 8MP IR-enhanced night vision sensor
  • 320×180 thermal/infrared sensor

(15) under-display 16MP selfie camera in the centre of the screen (eliminates the perspective problem), with locally-processed AI dehazing, and OIS with Super Steady Video

(16) small touchscreen beside the rear cameras:
  • provides a viewfinder for taking close-range group photos and selfies with the rear cameras
  • can also show notifications, the Always On Display, playback controls and other things when the phone is lying face down
  • flush with the back panel; no screen bump or bezel
  • at least Corning Gorilla Glass Armor cover glass
  • 16:9, Dynamic AMOLED 2X, Diamond PenTile, HDR10+, LTPO 5.0, 1-120Hz, 3,000 nits
  • Mini model: 1.5", 672×378 @ 514ppi
  • base model: 2.0", 896×504 @ 514ppi
  • Plus model: 2.25", 1,024×576 @ 522ppi
  • Ultra model: 2.5", 1,152×648 @ 529ppi

(17) improved front displays:
  • new name denoting the under-display selfie camera: "Infinity-U"
  • 20:9, Dynamic AMOLED 2X, Diamond PenTile, HDR10+, LTPO 5.0, 1-120Hz, 3,000 nits
  • Mini model: 5.5", 2,400×1,080 @ 479ppi
  • base model: 6.4", 3,200×1,440 @ 548ppi
  • Plus model: 6.7", 3,200×1,440 @ 524ppi
  • Ultra model: 7.0" 3,200×1,440 @ 501ppi
  • again, Corning Gorilla Glass Armor or better

(18) improved S-Pen for the Ultra model:
  • double the pressure sensitivity from 4,096 to 8,192 levels of pressure
  • add a second function button to the S-Pen
  • make both buttons programmable for various functions such as playback controls

(19) programmable volume buttons on the phone without the need to install Good Lock, with the option to press and hold to skip forward and backward, whether the phone is locked or unlocked

(20) programmable multifunction button in between the volume buttons, with a tactile bump, effectively giving the phone the same physical controls as a pair of headphones (please keepall buttons high enough to attach a phone cooler at the centre of the phone)

(21) programmable camera shutter button on the left side near the top when holding in portrait orientation
  • for taking pictures when using either the front or rear display
  • can be assigned other functions when not taking pictures

(22) Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 chip worldwide:
  • TSMC N3P 2nd generation 3-nanometre manufacturing process
  • 8-core Nuvia-designed CPU: • 2+4+2 core configuration • at least 16MB of shared L3 cache • single-core Geekbench 6 score of roughly 3,000 points • multi-core Geekbench 6 score of roughly 10,000 points • real-world performance roughly matching the Intel Core Ultra 7 155U laptop CPU from 2023, or the Apple M2 MacBook Air
  • next gen Adreno GPU: • roughly 7 teraFLOPs of peak performance • real-world performance roughly matching the Nvidia RTX 2050 laptop GPU from 2022, or the Apple M2 10-core GPU from 2022
  • 2x more powerful NPU than the previous generation once again, for radical on-device AI capabilities
  • at least 24MB of system-level cache

(23) large, multi-level hybrid cooling system comprising a copper vapour chamber behind the screen, a copper vapour chamber behind the rear glass, and graphite sheets

(24) quad-channel/64-bit LPDDR6 RAM @ 12,800MHz & 102.4GB/s, the same amount of memory bandwidth as the base M2 & M3 chips

(25) quad-lane UFS 4.0/4.1 storage

(26) Thunderbolt 5 (TB5) port:
  • DisplayPort 2.1 Alt Mode
  • Multi Stream Transport for multi display output
  • PCIe tunneling for an external GPU and storage
  • these capabilities are mostly for DeX/desktop mode (see #29)
  • yes, smartphone SoCs are easily powerful enough to drive multiple displays, and here's the logic supporting this idea: the 2020 MacBook Air M1 is still a powerful ultrabook in 2024, even with its passive cooling system→many desktop PCs could easily drive multiple displays 20 years ago→the MacBook Air M1 is ludicrously more powerful than any PC from 20 years ago→laptops much less powerful than the MacBook Air M1 easily support multiple displays→the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 is roughly on par with the MacBook Air M1→smartphones could easily drive multiple displays
  • yes, smartphone SoCs are easily powerful enough to support eGPUs, and here's the logic supporting this idea: laptops less powerful than the S9 series phones (2018) have supported this technology since 2011→the processing power of smartphones increased rapidly after the S9 series→all things being equal, smartphones and laptops are almost on par now→as stated previously, the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 is roughly on par with the 2020 MacBook Air M1→due to Qualcomm's acquisition of Nuvia and the transition to 3-nanometre technology, Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 smartphones in 2025 will likely see a leap in performance even greater than the one seen in 2019 with the Snapdragon 855/Galaxy S10/Note 10smartphones could easily handle external GPUs

(27) Wi-Fi 7 tri-band

(28) Bluetooth 5.4

(29) substantial QoL improvements to DeX mode including, but not limited to:
  • fully-desktop-grade web browser, email client, office suite, and file manager, all with a dynamic and scalable UI, and multi-instancing capability
  • greater efforts to bring more desktop-grade software to Android, diligently optimized, and again with a dynamic and scalable UI, and multi-instancing capability
  • inter-app communication in the foreground and background (also in phone mode)
  • a lineup of Samsung-branded lapdocks with TB5, multi display passthrough via TB5, external graphics passthrough via TB5, Wireless DeX, a Qi2 magnetic wireless charging phone holder which flips around from the backside of the screen, a small compartment for a short TB5 ribbon cable, a trackpad with proper false touch rejection and palm rejection, 2-in-1 functionality including a reversible touchscreen with S-Pen support, reasonably large batteries, an HDMI input, and assorted I/O typically found on ultrabooks
  • support for hover mode when using a stylus-enabled lapdock, a pen display/drawing tablet, or a screenless graphics board
  • up to 4K output without installing Good Lock
  • HDR10+ output
  • unrestricted broad-spectrum support for various resolutions, aspect ratios, and refresh rates
  • up to 165Hz output
  • multi display output over TB5 via Multi Stream Transport, with support for at least two external displays, and ideally three (again, mobile SoCs are easily powerful enough to do this; see #26)
  • support for external graphics over TB5 via PCIe tunneling (again, mobile SoCs are easily powerful enough to do this as well; see #26)
  • a lineup of Samsung-branded external GPUs/eGPUs based on Qualcomm Adreno architecture, with a TB5 interface, performance ranging up to the equivalent of an Nvidia RTX 4070 Ti, but with half as much power consumption or less, a slim and portable form factor, and the ability to slot into the aforementioned lapdocks
  • Wireless DeX output increased to at least 1080p @ 60Hz with HDR10+
  • system backup button in the App Drawer and on the phone screen for one-click backup of the phone's internal storage to an external drive and/or the cloud; of course after the first backup, only new files are copied, and only modified files are overwritten
  • safe disconnect button in the App Drawer and on the phone screen for one-click decoupling of all external hardware before unplugging the phone; cannot be used while performing file operations or system backup
  • air mouse via the phone's motion sensors
  • trackpad, air mouse, and air gestures via Galaxy Watch
  • resizable and sortable App Drawer
  • more sophisticated interface for window snapping, similar to the one in Windows 11, with the App Drawer available for launching apps in a pre-snapped configuration
  • relocatable taskbar
  • portrait orientation available on all external displays individually, including a lapdock
  • manual rotation control for all external displays individually, including a lapdock, and also in phone mode
  • multiple desktop pages in like manner to multiple homescreen pages
  • system monitor with detailed readouts (also in phone mode)
  • widgets
  • live wallpaper (also in phone mode)
  • customizable UI elements including colour schemes, themes, and icon packs
  • screensavers
  • sound effects
  • a phone/tablet screen viewport in the notification area of the taskbar
  • XR mode
  • game console mode
*extra mentions:

Thank you again.
21 Comments
MickInTheHamlet
Beginner Level 2
Galaxy S
  • Drop Ultrawide sensor/lens (and even wide lens)
  • Drop 200 MP 1/1.3" sensor for a 1.0” 50 MP sensor
  • Only large 50MP sensors : 1.0” to 1/2” 
  • One large 50MP sensor/lens  35 mm   + One large 50MP sensor/lens 70 mm + One large 50MP  sensor/lens : 105mm + One large 50MP sensor/lens 135mm/150mm
  • All apertures under f/2.5
  • Macro mode on all sensors
  • Focus on hardware instead of AI
  • Keep flat screen

I wish Samsung dropped the ultrawide sensor (25 mm should be the minimum). Indeed, how can one enjoy having a distorted subject that doesn’t look like what the photographer sees in reality. I’d much rather have only 2 or 3 or 4 “big” sensors all featuring sensor-crop, macro, portrait mode and 8K video : 

  • ½” to 1 inch sensor, 50 MP, dual pixel PDAF, 25mm or 35 mm (Who will dare?) with variable and fast aperture ( < f/1.8)
  • ½” to 1 inch sensor, 50 MP, dual pixel PDAF, between 50mm and 75mm with variable and fast aperture ( < f/1.8)
  • ½” to 1 inch sensor, 50 MP, dual pixel PDAF, between 75mm and 100mm with variable and fast aperture ( < f/2.0)
  • ½” to 1 inch sensor, 50 MP, dual pixel PDAF, between 100 mm and 150mm with variable and fast aperture ( < f/2.8)

 

The same goes with zoom over x20 or x30 : what’s the point of having a zoom beyond 500/750mm, unless it be for a “binoculars” feature ? Samsung should focus on image quality between x1 and x30, i.e. color consistency, color accuracy, exposure accuracy and sharpness across the different lenses.

Speaking about image quality, I also wish Samsung gave more information about and focus on the lenses manufacturing, material and coating instead of banking on A.I..

DaverZ
Active Level 4
Galaxy S
Thanks for your comment. Those are some interesting requests. I'd love better cameras too, but I see three major problems:

1. The phone doesn't have enough physical space for three or four large sensors (¾ to 1.0"), at least not without a massive, ugly camera bump.

2. Multiple large sensors would be really expensive. Not cheap at all.

3. I agree with your idea of a 1.0" 50MP main sensor. It would be much better than the existing 1/1.3" 200MP sensor because it would truly approach entry-level DSLR/mirrorless quality. However, it's largely a numbers game with Samsung. There's pretty much no chance of them reducing the megapixel count at this point. I listed a 1.0" 256MP main sensor for the S25 Ultra, which would still have about 65% larger pixels than the current 200MP sensor, thereby improving image quality significantly.

I partially agree about AI. I think Samsung should focus more on hardware and less on AI than they do, but AI is still important for image quality enhancement and other functions.

Thanks again.
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